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April Fools' Day attempt at humor about Cape Hatteras access isn't funny

Friday 01 April 2011 at 5:42 pm.

National Parks Traveler, a magazine-style website that covers the National Park system and the National Park Service on a daily basis, had to backtrack today and issue a statement on an April Fools’ Day story about the beach access situation at Cape Hatteras that was yanked from the site this morning after just a few hours online.

Complaints that it was not very funny were sent to the website, to the National Park Service, and to Cornell (University) Lab of Ornithology.

Message boards and blogs were brimming by mid-morning with comments from advocates for reasonable beach access who were outraged and insulted by the article that was posted in the early morning hours

The headline on the article was “At Cape Hatteras National Seashore, a Startling Revelation Forces a Rethinking of Piper Plover Protection.”

It was written by National Parks Traveler contributor Robert Janiskee, a retired professor at the University of South Carolina.

The premise of the attempt at humor was that the birders had banded together to come to Cape Hatteras to enlist support for the Park Service’s management of the piping plover, a shorebird that is federally listed as threatened. Leading the charge to Cape Hatteras was Tim Gallivanter, editor-in-chief of “Birdlife” at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology.

Gallivanter was described as a “man on a mission.”

“In recent months National Park Service officials,” the author wrote, “had been steadily losing public support for their battle to prevent hordes of beach-driving ORVers from wantonly destroying vital nesting habitat for endangered piping plovers at Cape Hatteras National Seashore. Alarmed by this turn of events, the international birding community decided to launch its own high-profile campaign to protect the Outer Banks shorebirds and their precious nesting habitat.”

You get the picture.  After a trip to the beach with a buffoonish NPS biologist, Gallivanter demands to meet with seashore superintendent Mike Murray, who says such things as:

"I trust you've enjoyed observing our endangered piping plovers? Cute little buggers, aren't they? The bean counters tell us that each egg produced in those nests costs a million dollars or so in related expenditures and lost tourism. Wonder what that figures out to per pounce (sic)?"

At the end of the article, Gallivanter breaks the bad news to Murray that the park biologists are protecting sandpipers, not piping plovers.

However, the sandpipers are displacing the piping plovers and are eventually blown away by park rangers.

If you don’t think this is a very funny story, you aren’t alone.

Protests on the Internet were loud and swift. 

The access situation at the Cape Hatteras National Seashore is not humorous but endangers an economy and a way of life on Hatteras and Ocracoke islands.

To say that the process of formulating an ORV management plan has been contentious is an understatement.

It has just about torn this community apart.

Feelings have been running high among supporters and opponents of the park’s planning thus far.

After e-mails from angry islanders and visitors to the seashore, National Park Traveler editor Kurt Repanshek took the article off the website about mid-morning.

Outraged folks continued to press their point with Mike Murray and got this response from Cyndy Holda, the park’s public affairs specialist:

“Mike and I agree that the article is not funny and unnecessarily aggravates an already difficult situation for all involved. Mike has spoken with Kurt Repanshek this morning and by that time Kurt had already removed the article.”

Other people called and e-mailed the Cornell Lab of Ornithology.

One of those people posted a response online from Anne Hobbs, a public information specialist at the lab:

“Thanks very much for letting me see the text. Someone put a lot of energy into this! We are, of course, disappointed that whoever did this hoax used the Lab’s name and that of our Living Bird editor, Tim Gallagher, and we’re very glad to know that it has been removed from the website and, apparently from Google as well. Except for those of you who are affected by the actual situation, this hoax appears to have been allowed to die rather than spread on the web. I have passed along a copy of the text to our director of communications. Thanks for alerting us to this misuse of the Lab.”

Shortly after noon, National Park Travel editor Repanshek posted an article online about the unhappiness over what he apparently saw as a tongue-in-cheek attempt to poke fun at the situation.

This is his statement that ran under the headline “April Fool’s Story on Cape Hatteras Not Funny to All Readers:”

“The issue of access on Cape Hatteras National Seashore is among the most contentious in the National Park System. The presence of species that are recognized as threatened by both the federal government as well as the state of North Carolina requires the National Park Service to manage the seashore in such a way that protects and benefits these species.
 

“Unfortunately, that management approach has not been welcomed or supported by all. There have been reports of harassment of seashore personnel, vandalism on the seashore, economic hardship, and long-time beach-goers who are finding it more and more difficult to reach long-treasured spots on the cape.

Traveler's attempt on April Fool's Day to take a pause from the heated atmosphere that has swirled about the seashore fell flat with some readers, including those at the Park Service. Recognizing those concerns and objections, the story has been taken down.

“While the intent was not to further aggravate the situation, it regrettably appears to have done just that in some corners.

“Traveler has long served as an open forum for the exchange of information and opinions about this controversy, and will continue to do so.”

That is not exactly an apology, but at least the website’s editor acknowledges that the attempt at humor “fell flat with some readers.”

On the other hand, the blog I posted yesterday about the National Park Service Director’s Awards for Natural Resource Protection is not an April Fools’ Day joke.  Check it out.

FOR MORE INFORMATION
Click here to read the National Park Traveler story that caused all the outrage and was removed from the website.
Click here to read the conversation and comments on the Outer Banks Connection message board.
Click here to read the National Park Traveler explanation of why the article was removed and see comments.

70 comments

anon

Proof of what the snake thinks of us:

Submitted by Crotalus (not verified) on April 1, 2011 – 6:03pm.

“I too wish you had left it up and not caved. And I read it (and with foresight, even made a copy on word). For all the crying, I found the NPS was the major brunt of the joke, so you would have thought they would have enjoyed that. I guess the error was having any mention of their contignent, as everyone else is fair game in their book.

And as I’ve said elsewhere, they can dish it out – cheering each other on accusing NPS staff of all manner of misconduct and crimes short of having sex with children and animals – but they can’t take it.

They had a federally-funded golden goose, and they killed it with their greed for more and more McMansions to hold more and more people far beyond the capacity of the resource.

There are some genuinely reasonable and rational members of the ORV contingent, though we’ll never see them posting here or any of the other popular NPS-staff bashing boards. The vocal minority use whining and intimidation to silence any opposition who even tries to have a rational discussion with them.”

http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com/201..

anon - 01-04-’11 21:29
bert smith

There we go with the anon. again. What are you afraid of? The rabid, no-holds-barred approach has been almost entirely the province of the people haters, who will accept nothing less than the closing down of OBX to all visitors. Any protest about this is termed whining, but when they whine they get police escorts and have meetings moved. The group that is pushing this is like the anti-gun crusade that as soon as they get one concession, ask for another and another and another, until all that we had is gone. Is it any wonder that some of the opposition is getting radicalized and digging in their heels. No compromise is almost a compromise in itself.
Give us back our beaches and we won’t run over any birds, that is about as far as I am willing to compromise. No sense of humor about it. is that a surprise to anyone?

bert smith (Email ) - 02-04-’11 00:05
Salvo Jimmy

You got it Bert Smith,

I posted the below on a number of websites when things started heating up back in the Belli years. I advocated being very careful in dealing with the enemy, because you were most likely going to get screwed if you did not understand them.

[quote]
Know your enemy in total. They will not stop. Never have in the past.

What I see has happened over the years is a strategic move on the part of those who want the beach eventually closed to all human access and "…….permanently reserved as a primitive wilderness……". That quote is out of context from the Seashore enabling legislation and is used often by the enemy.

This strategy is being accomplished by a short range tactical plan to take little bits at a time over a long period of time until it is all taken. And the long period is decades. Much of this started in the 70’s with the closing of Pea Island to ORVs and the seasonal closures that became permanent in some areas.

COMPROMISE has been the operative word/method they have used. "Surely you can COMPROMISE and give up this little piece. Look what we are leaving you with". However, nothing seems to ever come back (eg. Pea Island and area around Buxton/Frisco/Hatteras). Then they come back later for another little piece. "Hey, come on COMPROMISE, you don’t want to look bad by not COMPROMISING do you ??"

I also see pushing for an ORV ban in selected areas as just a tactical step in the strategic direction and a push for further pedestrian ban will eventually come. Witness the current closures prohibiting any human entry. The COMPROMISE as I’ve observed it over the years has basically been in one direction only. The enemy considers they already own the whole area and their COMPROMISE is letting us keep some part for now as they move forward with their strategic plan.

My Dad essentially told me this back in the 70’s when he said it was only starting with Pea Island. Unfortunately I was too "SMART" at the time to listen and understand.

I wish I could remember the guy’s name who several years ago said to me that there was no way NPS would ever close off Cape Point.
[unquote]

Salvo Jimmy (Email ) - 02-04-’11 09:06
samsdad1

Irene we need officials to be aware of Crot’s claims of sex with kids and animals it seems he should be detained…

on to the story… Poorest apology ever. read the comments and understand this is their true feelings and not a joke

samsdad1 (Email ) - 02-04-’11 09:20
Denny in Dayton

I’ve always considered Kurt’s Traveler to be rather a rag. He had a recent article about the access debate at Grand Cypress park quoting Congressman Alcee Hastings and referring to him as “she”. I submitted a comment, that he doesn’t seem informed about who he quotes, that Alcee is also a crook and one of only 6 Fed Judges to be impeached in the history of this country. My comment was never posted or responded to, but he edited his article.

Denny in Dayton (Email ) - 02-04-’11 09:35
James

Again, again, again, again…a store bought judge, one bad Audubon guy, a crooked lawyer, and some non-science buffers. There’s your April Fools joke…everyday! I feel bad for all the real people who care about that Island…the locals, the good Audubon folks across the nation, and the owners who are the citizens of the United States that know nothing about the truth and demise of THEIR National Park.

James - 02-04-’11 11:06
Jack

“…the good Audubon folks across the nation…”

I wouldn’t go as far as calling them “Good Autubon Folks”. I’d venture to say that MOST of them are uninformed people who just feel that that have to do something generous for some charity, not that there’s anything wrong with that. They read something that draws them in, then they get their monthly SPIN DOCTORS version of Ecology and what the BAD HUMAN RACE is doing to the world magazine and the get feeling more guilt. More guilt in the eyes of these Organizations is MORE MONEY in their treasury.

I don’t belong to too many organizations any more, since the internet allows one to investigate the truth about the operations of these Organizations, I found I was funding pretty much anything but the “Cause” dejour. When these Organization CEO’s are flying in private jets, when their legal fees exceed the money going directly to the cause, one has to stop and think seriously about what is going on.

Remember, and you don’t have to wander too far to find this information, that the SELC (et. al.) are against the bridge from Va to NC because of “Run-off pollution” but the same group is fighting the Bonner Bridge and wants a 17 mile replacement… what about the run-off from that one? Or how about wilderness protection of the birds at CHNSRA but sell off prime wilderness on the north end of the Outer Banks and in Louisiana… What’s with that? Shouldn’t they be buying up land with all these donations instead? Who else has the resources to convert private land into private wilderness refuges. National Parks are for the public, but apparently they have become the cash cow for the environmental lawyers.

Jack - 03-04-’11 10:47
samsdad1

Jack do not forget that these same organizations will sue to stop coal production touting the need for clean energy and then sue the solar and wind farms also. A no win situation with them as they shotgun sue on every little loophole.

samsdad1 (Email ) - 04-04-’11 07:27
ceebee

we have quit donating to all environmental groups after seeing what’s happening here (and other places we’ve visited)

ceebee (Email ) - 04-04-’11 08:21
anon

More Snake Quotes. Claims Piping Mad to be “Propaganda Piece” while creating his own against us.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Submitted by Crotalus (not verified) on April 2, 2011 – 10:24am.
Dewey,

Could you list the businesses which have closed along with the evidence the business went under as a direct or even indirect result of the closures and not just standard turnover/bad business model in a tourist community? Thanks.

I can’t think of any. The only two businesses I know of – the ones used in the propaganda piece "Piping Mad" – that have closed, had nothing to do with species protections.

In the meantime Buxton has a new gas station, car wash, new shop by Angelos, new NAPA … there are two new restaurants in Avon …. just off the top of my head.

http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com/201..

anon - 04-04-’11 12:48
Keeter

The new Gas Station, Car Wash, and NAPA in Buxton are all owned by the same family, so that’s hardly a valid indicator.

Keeter - 04-04-’11 14:59
Dewey Parr

Living in Buxton on Cape Hatteras Island it is hard for me to find much humor in the suffering inflicted on our community due to the beach access controversy. Over the lasts few years I have watched one family after another endure hardships as a loss of their job or the closing of businesses. Our church sponsored food pantrys have been doing the best they can to help the families out of work. Many families have had to make cut backs that included change their children’s plans to go on to higher education due to a lack of funds. The beach access issue has not only hurt the Buxton area economically but completely changed our traditional way of life. Prior to the closing of our famed Cape Point and South Beach, it was a traditional gather place for the locals to meet and greet one another. Not only has it destroyed our way of life but our respect for the National Park. Because of the ruthless way the park administration has handled the issue they are no longer viewed as our friends but our enemies. It grieves me to see what used to be our friends now viewed as gun totting enforcers ready to shoot animals or humans they view as predators to the piping plovers. The predator program definitely needs to be revised. I like a good joke as much as the next person but I did not find much humor in the National Travelers April Fools Day article. Frankly, I think it made the National Traveler look like a fool.

Dewey Parr - 04-04-’11 16:38
Dewey Parr

Reply to Crotalus
Sorry Crotalus I don,t reply to anyone that does not have enough guts to identify themselves. I Googled the name Crotalus and the definition of the name you hide behind. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crotalus Wikipedia stated it is a genus of venomous pitvipers found only in the Americans from souther Canada to northern Argentina. From what little I have seen of your comments the description seems to fit you well.

Dewey Parr (Email ) - 04-04-’11 20:44
Crotalus

Just say you can’t answer. That’s not a crime.

You may be Obama for all I know.

Crotalus (Email ) - 04-04-’11 21:16
ceebee

the ‘new’ napa in buxton is hardly new, just in a new location

car wash and ‘new’ gas station are the same family

ceebee (Email ) - 04-04-’11 21:45
anon

"You may be Obama for all I know."

You may be a dangerously deranged science-worshipping devout atheist eco-freak for all we know.

anon - 05-04-’11 08:15
samsdad1

Tom Cruise?

samsdad1 (Email ) - 05-04-’11 08:30
Crotalus

Dangerous? Only if your edible fish, fowl or deer-or an intruder.
Deranged? Only my therapist knows. j/k I don’t have one.
Science-worshiping? Nope. I don’t worship anything. (I know, a difficult concept for the credulous to grasp. Just because you worship something, it doesn’t follow that everyone else must also worship something.)
Atheist? You betcha’.
Eco-freak? Ill-defined, but I take it to mean anyone who actually cares about something other than their own fixation on immediate gratification and self-centered desires. Guilty, I guess.

Crotalus (Email ) - 05-04-’11 15:07
samsdad1

Crot what causes someone like you to move to a beaches of CAHA?

samsdad1 (Email ) - 05-04-’11 15:13
Crotalus

The night life and after hours clubs.

Crotalus (Email ) - 05-04-’11 16:11
anon

cred·u·lous (krj-ls)
adj.

1. Disposed to believe too readily; gullible.
2. Arising from or characterized by credulity.

_____________________________________

e·lit·ism or é·lit·ism (ltzm, -l)
n.
1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.
2.
a. The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.
b. Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class.

anon - 05-04-’11 16:15
Crotalus

No anon, I didn’t call the free and open clan elitist. Although, now that you mention it, there is a strong vein of entitlement running through various comments.

Crotalus (Email ) - 05-04-’11 16:21
samsdad1

Anon you forgot one definition…

Crotanus: snake in the grass most commonly heard saying nah nah boo boo and i told you so. They are not known for their original thoughts but the regurgitation of others data. He is even referenced in the jimmydean breakfast commercial as the crab guy in the science class or the light bulb in the spelling bee.

samsdad1 (Email ) - 05-04-’11 18:28
Crotalus

Awe, sammy’s papa tried to get creative. Fail. But nice try lil’ fella.

Crotalus (Email ) - 05-04-’11 18:35
anon

While this island community may never know WHO "Crotalus" is, through his own words and deeds he has shown us exactly WHAT he is, and more importantly, what he really thinks of his neighbors.

Thanks for playing, Stradivarius.

anon - 06-04-’11 09:39
Crotalus

I get along with my neighbors just fine thank you. Your vocal minority does not represent them – well, except for one of them anyway.

They don’t believe the ends justifies the means. They don’t use lies and distortions to get what they want.

Crotalus (Email ) - 06-04-’11 16:02
anon

"They don’t use lies and distortions to get what they want."

And of course, that is a tactic that you would NEVER stoop to use.

"…accusing NPS staff of all manner of misconduct and crimes short of having sex with children and animals…"

Right?

"…Buxton has a new gas station, car wash, new shop by Angelos, new NAPA…"

Right?!?

"…the propaganda piece "Piping Mad"…"

RIGHT?

anon - 06-04-’11 17:43
Crotalus

I stand by each and every one of the statements too.

Crotalus (Email ) - 06-04-’11 17:53
ceebee

why doesn’t someone ask the owner of the ‘new’ gas station how his 4 wheel drive rental business is doing?

ceebee (Email ) - 06-04-’11 18:40
Bob Ruhle

Crotalus is a teacher of children? Seriously?

Bob Ruhle (Email ) - 06-04-’11 18:54
anon

“I stand by each and every one of the statements….”

…as examples of using lies and distortions. Got it.

anon - 06-04-’11 20:02
Crotalus

Show your work anon.

How is each a “lie and distortion”.

e.g. You can look on the Piping Mad video discussion on OBXconnections. I supported the fact it’s nothing but a propaganda piece. I was unchallenged (personally attacked yes, but the facts were not challenged or refuted and remain so to this day).

ceebee,
While you’re asking him that, ask him how he can afford to expand with a new gas station and car wash when the island economy is in ruins. (Could be his 4-wheel drive rentals are not doing well because he doesn’t advertise? I didn’t even know Jarvis rented them.)

Bob,
I’m not a school teacher and have never claimed to be.

Crotalus (Email ) - 06-04-’11 20:21
anon

"…accusing NPS staff of all manner of misconduct and crimes short of having sex with children and animals…"
Vicious lie, meant to demonize ORV users to NPT crowd. Prove it.

"…Buxton has a new gas station, car wash, new shop by Angelos, new NAPA…"
3 on the same property/same owner. Opportunistic distortions of CAHA economic reality to NPT crowd.

"…the propaganda piece "Piping Mad"…"
OP/ED

“I was unchallenged.”
Does not equal judgment as “Propaganda” in any eyes but your own.

“…personally attacked yes…”
You are sorely miscast in the role of “Victim”.

anon - 06-04-’11 21:02
Bob Ruhle

Crot,

The last sentence of your last post is good to see.

Bob Ruhle (Email ) - 06-04-’11 21:08
cb

‘While you’re asking him that, ask him how he can afford to expand with a new gas station and car wash when the island economy is in ruins. (Could be his 4-wheel drive rentals are not doing well because he doesn’t advertise? I didn’t even know Jarvis rented them.)’

i don’t need to ask him anything but the next time you see him, YOU ask him.

i’ve seen ads for his rentals and towing service and i don’t even pay much attention to that stuff.

cb (Email ) - 06-04-’11 21:55
Crotalus

cb,
I don’t need to ask him as his actions (and others) speaks volumes. Obviously all the doom and gloom for the area is false. I’ve never even seen a 4×4 rental vehicle at the Exxon station and I pass by there daily. From where does he rent them?

anon,
The libel of NPS employees:
bob you know darn well the nps are to busy making whoope in their pick ups to chech any place else….

http://forum.reddrumtackle.com/showthrea..

That was in a thread in which the NPS staff was also accused of ignoring the rest of the seashore and targeting a local business by only monitoring one area. Pure fantasy.

Piping Mad is Goebbelsian propaganda at its finest.

There’s factually inaccurate statements, or unsupported rhetoric in almost ever segment.

Maybe tomorrow if I feel like watching that [stuff] again, I’ll enumerate all of them for you. Better yet, just go to connections and read it there.

You’re right. I refused to be bullied and a victim and attack back, escalating the attack when appropriate, or not.

Crotalus (Email ) - 06-04-’11 23:07
anon

"The libel of NPS employees:
bob you know darn well the nps are to busy making whoope in their pick ups to chech any place else…."

Wow. That sure trumps:

"…accusing NPS staff of all manner of misconduct and crimes short of having sex with children and animals…"

"Piping Mad is Goebbelsian propaganda at its finest"

Let the record show that the snake was the first to descend into claims of Nazism.

"Maybe tomorrow if I feel like watching that [stuff] again, I’ll enumerate all of them for you."

Maybe you will.

anon - 06-04-’11 23:20
Will

Hey, Crot how’s your dog doing? Teaching you new tricks yet?

Will - 07-04-’11 08:18
samsdad1

“…accusing NPS staff of all manner of misconduct and crimes short of having sex with children and animals…”

Enough said about the integrity of the CROT right here. Any and all who support him share these values.

samsdad1 (Email ) - 07-04-’11 08:55
ccbcbcb

‘I don’t need to ask him as his actions (and others) speaks volumes. Obviously all the doom and gloom for the area is false. I’ve never even seen a 4×4 rental vehicle at the Exxon station and I pass by there daily. From where does he rent them?’

open your eyes, it’s written on his sign

ccbcbcb (Email ) - 07-04-’11 09:13
anon

"While you’re asking him that, ask him how he can afford to expand with a new gas station and car wash when the island economy is in ruins. (Could be his 4-wheel drive rentals are not doing well because he doesn’t advertise? I didn’t even know Jarvis rented them.)"

Could be that an unmanned gas station is probably just a little more profitable than a snowcone stand, or maybe he just has a "good business model in a tourist community", since the only other car wash on the island is at Askin’s BP in Avon.

Either way, your claim was an agenda-driven DISTORTION, along with the rest of your mental vomit listed above.

anon - 07-04-’11 09:54
Crotalus

anon,
It was no distortion. If the communities were dying on the vine as you and yours claim, people wouldn’t be expanding businesses and/or opening up in new or remodeled locations. Fact.

And again, no one I have ever done business with here, has closed their doors because of the closures.

More later. Gone fishin’.

Crotalus (Email ) - 07-04-’11 13:27
anon

"It was no distortion."
In your eyes only. Others tend to disagree.

"If the communities were dying on the vine as you and yours claim, people wouldn’t be expanding businesses and/or opening up in new or remodeled locations."
Comparing basic service providers, (Fuel, auto service/maint.), with specialty providers, (Tackle shops), is yet another distortion.

"Fact."
Not.

"And again, no one I have ever done business with here, has closed their doors because of the closures."
Tell that to Frisco Tackle’s previous owners.

anon - 07-04-’11 15:20
Will

Hey Crot, Why is the beach closed by the high dune still. There’s nothing there that should close it… been 16 plus days now. Bop knows…

Will - 07-04-’11 16:00
Crotalus

anon,
They were trying to get out from under that place long before 2005 and the first closing of the Point.
Just saying someone closed, doesn’t prove the cause of it closing. And one business closing (which was replaced), for what ever reason doesn’t equate to the collapse of the communities.

Will,
Where/what’s the "high dune"?

Crotalus (Email ) - 07-04-’11 20:56
anon

" And one business closing (which was replaced), for what ever reason doesn’t equate to the collapse of the communities"
Just as one business owner expanding, for whatever reason, does not equate to the robustness of an entire community.

The fact remains that your own "lies and distortions" are far more heinous than those you claim to be somehow libelous. Your posts above prove that conclusively to all but the blind.

anon - 07-04-’11 21:42
Crotalus

anon,
See, that’s another distortion. At no time did I say it was robust.

Crotalus (Email ) - 08-04-’11 06:06
anon

"See, that’s another distortion. At no time did I say it was robust."

If you say so, "Tile Setter".

SURPRISE! (Shrinkage?)

You may have the last word.

anon - 08-04-’11 16:22
Crotalus

Okay, last word.

Huh?

Crotalus (Email ) - 08-04-’11 16:30
anon

MEDIC”!!!!!!

anon - 08-04-’11 17:36
Crotalus

You need help or something?

Crotalus (Email ) - 08-04-’11 17:40
anon

Why, yes. I’ve a Rock that needs Flipping.

anon - 08-04-’11 18:16
Crotalus

Again, you’re not making any sense.

Crotalus (Email ) - 08-04-’11 18:20
anon

Then why would one continue to respond to nonsense?

Wait, I know….

anon - 08-04-’11 18:27
Crotalus

I’m trying to put it together with our discussion of lies and distortions, thinking you’re trying to make some obscure point, but it doesn’t fit.
If you plan on just carrying on as is, just say so, and I’ll let you have the last word.

Crotalus (Email ) - 08-04-’11 18:53
anon

SO…..

Be seeing you.

anon - 08-04-’11 19:06
Crotalus

JAM? Was all that supposed to be code-speak for something I’m supposed to know?

Crotalus (Email ) - 08-04-’11 19:12
anon

NOT. Way off.

Worried much over such nonsense?

anon - 08-04-’11 19:20
Crotalus

Nope. You’re the only one I know who talks that way and already have insinuated you’ll be seeing me. Seems like it’s a logical conclusion that you’re him.

Carry on JAM. :-)

Crotalus (Email ) - 08-04-’11 19:39
anon

It’s rather comical to see you try to guess at identities and fail so miserably.

If only you knew…

anon - 08-04-’11 20:25
Crotalus

That’s my line!

Crotalus (Email ) - 08-04-’11 20:29
anon

“That’s my line!”

Male
51 years old
Cleveland OK/Buxton, NORTH CAROLINA
United States

Shall we Dance?

anon - 08-04-’11 20:39
Crotalus

I don’t dance with 51-year-old males, sorry.

Crotalus (Email ) - 08-04-’11 20:46
anon

“I don’t dance with 51-year-old males, (often)sorry.” (Fixed it for ya…)

But you do seem quite interested in this thread-that-goes-nowhere.

Care to elaborate?

anon - 08-04-’11 21:08
Crotalus

You had it to yourself until you piqued my interest w/your JAM imitation, if you’re really not him.

I’ve got more than a week invested in this discussion. Why not? It was getting interesting until you went off on a bender.

Crotalus (Email ) - 08-04-’11 21:28
anon

You had it to yourself until you piqued my interest w/your JAM imitation, if you’re really not him.

Not wanting to be selfish, I must admit I’m him M-T-TH and on certain non-secular holidays.

I’ve got more than a week invested in this discussion. Why not? It was getting interesting until you went off on a bender.

Mirror Time, McG. Sleep Tight….

anon - 08-04-’11 22:18
Irene

Please take this discussion off my blog. If you can’t discuss the issues, please don’t post.

Irene (Email ) - 08-04-’11 22:26
bert smith

I am with you 100% Irene. These children are getting too testy for my taste too! I would still like to see some good old fashioned civil disobedience and some way to get the people haters off our backs.

bert smith (Email ) - 10-04-’11 23:29
Ethan Fox

Whine whine whine. Take a joke you ignorant islanders.

Ethan Fox - 12-04-’11 13:26
Guy Fawkes

Waaah..waaah.. Someone is trying change something.. Waaah waah, I only want to read the first part…waaah waaahh..
Ignorant locals= Business as usual.

Guy Fawkes - 15-04-’11 20:17




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